Thursday, 14 November 2024

E-Stim For Women - a Womens view

Transcript

Wayne: Hello, everyone. It's Wayne here from E-Stim Systems. And today we're going to talk about something completely different. We're not going to talk about boxes. We're not going to talk about product. We're going to talk about how to use the product, and we're going to do it in a completely different way.

We're going to talk about how to use the product from a female perspective. Now, I've got myself two glamorous assistants. We have bones who you've possibly met before, and we have a very great friend, Liz, who has never used E-Stim before. but is willing to try, so this is going to be a great opportunity to introduce E-Stim from a female perspective.

But, there is a problem.

Liz: Yeah, there is. You're not a woman.

Wayne: No, not am I.

Liz: Oops!

Wayne: But I have a

Liz: solution! Surprise!

Caz: Hi! Hi! I am a woman. You are indeed. I'm the wifey. And also, no difference if you're not. Yes, we are. And we're going to E-Stim. And I'm going to let you see what it feels like.

Hi, it's Kaz aka The Wifey from Eastern Systems. And I've been joined today by Liz. Would you like to introduce yourself a bit more?

Liz: Hi, my name's Liz. I am a kinky female. There you

Caz: go. A kinky female. How's that? How long have you classed yourself as being a kinky female for? Um,

Liz: I would say Little over 20 years, I reckon.

Sort of like, pretty much from early encounters. I mean, you know, teenagers fooling around and just finding other things more appealing, I guess. Which is great now, because so many things are so much more acceptable now. I, I remember, um, I was talking about this with somebody recently, that, um, when I, you know, way back when I was in school.

And Nu Metal was a brand new thing in high school. And Slipknot first came out. And their drummer and his mask. That game, I was about 16 years old, that made me think lots and lots of things about the long hair and the mask and keeping the mask on. Um, and now people are like, oh, yeah, masks, it's a whole thing.

But, you know, 16, 17, 18 years old, it was not a thing then. And it sort of went from things like that to. liking being restrained or a little bit of breath play and things and not really knowing what it was then until probably by the time I was about 20 and got involved with Other, more like minded people, and everybody has that pilgrimage to Torture Garden and things like that.

Caz: The scene has changed, it's become a bit fun, so. During all your experimentation, have you ever played your electric play? Or anything electric?

Liz: Yes, not as much as I would like to. I, again, it was probably about 20 years ago now. When I first even heard of Violet Wands and then fell down that rabbit hole of the fact that it was a Victorian thing as well and being thoroughly interested by that side of things and the, the historic and the antique and the zappy zappy play, but certainly back then it was like, you either bought an antique thing or spent five or six hundred pounds on what was around at the time.

So that was not really something that 20 year old me could do. Um, and then, certainly later on as I've got back into the scene. Um, I do have a few external clip on things. I've got a, um, I do have a violet wand. Not a, I'm still holding out for an antique one because I just think they look really cool. I'm not sure I'd risk using it, but they look really cool in the box.

Caz: They are very showy often. So have you ever actually tried to ease them? I have not. Have you ever used anything like a TENS machine or used it on a person?

Liz: Used them on people. And I've used them  on me for both uses, actually. The actual owl that's really hurts, and apparently this helps outlook, as well as the Ooh!

Caz: Okay. So E-Stim, as you know, isn't just for men. One of the conceptions out there, a lot of people think, Oh yeah, E-Stim, it's just a man's thing, and it's designed more for male genital, but actually ladies can play with it. I'm gonna give you an ElectroHelix, and I want you to close your eyes, and I want you to imagine It's somewhere more interesting.

We can't do full demonstrations on here and I'll talk through the sensation with you, and then we'll talk about how it can be used and what other places Eastern for women can be used. So this is. An ideal vaginal probe for a lady. In fact, you've got two contact points, top and bottom. And you have this lovely flange around the edge here, which on some ladies can hit the labia, and on some ladies in the right position, does hit the elusive clitoris.

And it's called a flange electrode. It is bipolar. An idle beginner one really. There are some out on the market, some white electrodes with small like contacts side by side, where the sensation was sort of like a round and round sensation. But this one, the sensation is generally top to bottom.

Nope. Nope. Okey dokey. Wait,

Liz: you don't have that in your hand. I mean, just even before you do, I would say with, I keep, keep doing this, but just, just the quality, it is so smooth that looks really Obviously, as you said, internally, but also that looks like just the right kind of size and as smooth and that to hold on your clit as well as a direct bounce off the surface.

Caz: You could hold it on your clit, but what will happen is because you've only got one contact on your clit, you might not feel the sensation as much. You do need to make sure both contacts are there. I will get onto the electro ones, which you can use on your clit You just need to hold it in one hand, please.

And touch both contacts, top and bottom. We have here our Helix control books. This is the regeneration of what was our original series one. Easy to use. We've got power setting, feel, which controls how spiky or soft, but you feel a beat and speed, which works with the pulsing modes. So let's switch it on and let me know when you can feel anything.

I would actually say close your eyes and just imagine this is somewhere else.

Mm.

Caz: It's quite prickly at the moment, isn't it?

Mm.

Caz: Let's soften those spikes out a little bit. Mm. And of course you can make it a whole softer. There's definitely food for thought going on there. Is it how you thought it should?

Liz: No. No, I confess I did not know that How did you put it? Smooth out the flow? I didn't realise you could adjust I figured it's

Caz: If I turn it that way it's quite prickly.

Liz: Yeah.

Caz: And if I turn it that way

Liz: I suppose the science in there somewhere is like the waves are

Caz: closer together than farther apart.

Liz: But literally that, I mean, I, in my ignorance and previous experience of just have things that are, it's, it's stronger or it's, you know, it's the intensity is either higher or lower and that's it.

There's not a, , you, you can't mess with this. I'm gonna say smoother the spiky now is, that's gonna be the phrase now. Um, that's fine. Smoother, and the spiky, but also that being able to mess with the different, like pulse and things like, things like that, that is curious to know what the other settings are.

Okay,

Caz: so what I'll do, I'll give that to you. I put it back on spiky. I'll let you have a little play . So that's your power. Yeah, that's your spiking pulsing. And then if you want to change the mode You press that button there and it'll change to a different setting. Okay, I'll let you have a play. Now what Liz is playing with is our electro helix, which is an ideal beginners unit And it's ideal for ladies as a start out point.

It's easy to use. You have a bit more control. It can be used internally or externally. So what Liz is holding in her hand at the moment is a probe that's being used internally, but you can actually put sticky pads. You can put sticky pads on the sides of your labia lips. So that way your foam pulsing would then go across the labia.

Okay. It's quite an interesting sensation. So it's got various modes and settings. And then with fine mode, you feel nothing until you press that button.

Liz: That's it! So it's not fire button, it's FIRE!

Caz: Right, okay. It's an ultimate fire button, yes.

Oh, that's

Caz: nice. Your face is ill. I think she's enjoying this.

Liz: I'm torn between this is really pleasant and also feeling like I'm doing a review here of literally just the the consistency to it of the speed and the smooth to spiky etc. I cannot get over

Caz: it. From a lady's point of view, that internally, you play around with the senses once you get that right setting.

Um, you can sort of wiggle the electrodes around a little bit. Sometimes you can get your G spot and pads you can put on by your clitoris. Once you get the right settings, it can be really, really nice.

Liz: But that right there is a huge difference for just from my perspective of what you guys do, because it seems like a lot of the time, and I could be wrong, I apologise if I am, but it seems like a lot of the time, toys are designed by men for women, and they've never owned a vagina in their life.

Some of them, I wonder if they've even seen one, but that's a separate story. But literally, with a lot of, like with vibrators, a lot of them, you get like, slow to fast, or medley. Yeah. And who the hell likes the medley button? I've not met anybody who likes the medley button where it's just, we're going to just start getting you somewhere.

I'm going to switch to this setting, that setting, that one, back again, and there's no consistency to it. Okay, we have to make one adjustment. That one's, that one's a little bit too, too much, um.

Caz: A bit too much.

Liz: So literally, even on the milk setting. Yeah. Where it is doing different things, there's still a rhythm to it.

Yeah. Rather than like I said, it's on the, uh, with, uh. sort of annoys me about some toys. It's like just, you know, welcome to Midley's Greatest Hits now. I might regret this now, but we're gonna, we're gonna. Gonna try you on the fire button. Photon torpedoes, number two. Okay,

Caz: are you ready for this? Yes, ma'am.

Mm.

Caz: So that's what, that's what we call the naughty button, fire button.

So it's, please, can I have some more? Okay. She's enjoying this way too much. I can leave. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, of course not. I think it's, it's, it's because That, that's, that button to me is almost like the post, what did it feel like? Oh yeah. You So, it's

Liz: not just for men? No, it's really not. But also, as a, as someone who is very much into kink in their personal life, as well as being a Dom as well.

I can see both sides of it for. Being very entertaining for myself and, and entertaining in another way of causing complete torture for other people. Which is what I find entertaining.

Caz: You know you were asking about on the clitoris? Yes, ma'am. With the electro wands, obviously, because you've got the wider space in here.

Because they've got the insulators slightly closer together. Slightly  smaller, closer. This one can actually be used externally as well, because you can, you know, you do it with a vibrator, you can rub it over your external genitals, but that you can actually use on the clitoris quite nicely. And then this one's inserted.

Um, you can move it around and again you can get your G's sparked. I am very sensitive right at the very top around the cervical area so some, for me that was a bit too intense but for some other ladies it's quite nice. So this is quite a nice toy to play with, it's become my new best friend. And then we got on to the other fun things as well because I mentioned sneaky pads.

Sticky pads for ladies can be quite interesting. If you set up your labia, you can put a pad here and pad there, and you can put the client across. You can put it either side of your clitoris. Some people seem to put a pad on their thigh and a pad on their clitoris to put it up that way. Don't ask me why, but I have seen people saying that's what they do.

And they can be a good trial. And you can also put a pad either side of one nipple, but not one pad on one or one on the other because you'll be going down across your chest. With piercings, if you want to be really cruel with piercings, you can put the pads on the piercings and it makes them a little bit more intense, depending on where the piercings are.

Hey Macarena! One thing with piercings is we don't recommend that you use them as a contact until at least six months after they have been done because it takes time for the body to heal. There are, there are other Electrodes that can be electrified for a female. Just

Liz: looks like, you know, made by

Caz: NASA.

Other electrodes that can be used internally. Obviously you've got the ones, you've got the flanges, you've got a whole range of all different ones, all different shapes and sizes. I've got to

Liz: stop

Caz: doing

Liz: this. I keep talking about the quality of the machining and I'm over here, like. It's so smooth, but it's, it's so smooth.

Caz: What do you think of that one? This one, on this one, if you notice that the neck is sort of based on the top, so you already insert it up to there. Whereas this one, from a female perspective, you can actually insert it to there. So you then have that internal, that internal, that external. I designed that one.

I came up with that design mainly because a lot of what we were doing, from a female, from, this was me looking at the electrodes from a female point of view, and The top and the bottom for me was like, yeah, that's a great idea, but it was just needing something else, something more that can go that little bit further in.

This one does sometimes, at least on me personally, will sit on my G spot. So then it pulls the cone across my G spot as well, so that's quite nice. And I just wanted something that's just a bit more curvy, a bit more feminine looking. And it had that hence why it's got the red neck as well, because I wanted it to be sort of slightly more feminine looking.

Although it can be used by men, and men do use them. And it just sort of gives you that option to go that little bit further, or as you've mentioned, that little bit shallower, depending on how you are down there really. Yeah,

Liz: and it very much has that kind of love egg stroke, kegel weight shape to it as well.

Caz: And then we get on to the egg. This is the Diddy Egg. Nuh uh. That one, again, you can pop right up inside. It can certainly get its reduce, but again, you've got the closer connection. And you can, again, use that on your clitoris as well. And how long's the cable? The cable is a meter

Liz: Up through the back of your jeans into your rucksack.

Yep. Yep.

Caz: Ideal for going to shop. Wireless model coming soon. We do have a remote control system whereby you could, whereby somebody could be wired up to an electrode and then it can be controlled from a distance. We do actually have a remote control system. You don't necessarily have to be in control yourself.

How do I  touch the thing? You are going to plug it in and let me touch it. I'm going to let Liz have her shiny shinies. Can I have the people please? Yes. So we're now going to go up a level to the intermediate box. Now this is the electrode pebble. So that one, the helix

I showed

Caz: you, that one, you know, you can have one electrode in, so you have to decide if you can have pads, if you can have an internal,

you

Caz: can't have both.

With this one, the pebble, you've got two outputs, two controls, so you can have different level settings. And this one's got nine modes. I'm going to switch this one. And this one's got in it. One of my favourite modes. You've just got to see the

Liz: microphone.

Does it

Liz: talk to me as well? I mean, do I not need my never again?

Caz: I don't know. It depends. Do you want it to talk to me or do you want it to talk dirty with me? Are you going to be naughty? And because sound can sound various, you can actually stimulate to music. She's copying like you can't play any music, but you can actually. It's the

sexual equivalent of the flower on top of the TV!

I'm sorry! Imagine having that in your

Caz: local club. You just said you've just been to a really fab place. There's probably no doubt

Liz: had music. It's a fantastic place with all my kind of heavy metal going. Imagine heavy metal

Caz: going through that. All that nice bassy, metal y, noisy.

Liz: I have a few playlists. I'm just talking at myself.

There we go. I'm turning myself on. Come closer.

Caz: Oh dear.

Liz: Oh god, just my cackle is doing good things. Okay.

Caz: We actually tested the audio, crazy fuck. Ding, ding,

ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding. Yep, yep, yep. I can see that working.

Liz: Yep. Don't, because you do it like that. Now I'm hearing the little Yugala people for copyright purposes for Ba banana.

Banana.

Caz: Uh oh, not banana.

Liz: I literally, I mean, music means a lot to me anyway.

Caz: Yep.

Liz: And, um, my whole life has a soundtrack in all things and having sex without music on is just, why am I bothering? in my brain anyway. Unless you're outside, in which case, sorry, I'm out of stealth. Um, but literally, so every time I laugh, it's, this is fun.

Um, I have different playlists on my phone, because in, for me personally, when I'm, even when I'm playing with myself, let alone playing with other people, I do like having music on, that heightens it for me. But again, if I'm, With a partner from, from personal perspective, one of the things I love to do is have, I actually, I have a, um, a Bluetooth mask that's got built in earphones in the actual mask or mask and regular earphones, whichever, but so I can't say I've got music in my ears so that I have.

different playlists that appeal to that side of me. And if we can do that and have my hands tied up too, so that I can't interfere. I'm not expected to do anything. I can just feel what's occurring and listen to the music. Very happy times.

Caz: I quite like to spank and cane to music. Need a rhythm. So you have the electrode inserted and then I can hear the music for headphones and I can spank and cane, especially on one on the A Box, which is our audio driven box, but you can actually plug the.

the audio source into the box and you can actually put a skitter in and put headphones in so I can then spank and cane in time for music. And they would feel the sensation at the same time. Makes claim then that you're in a really good game. Going back to playing with sounds and microphones and ambient music and what you can feel.

There is actually a funny story to go alongside that which was, I had my partner suspended in a leather strapped bondage cage at an event. And it happened to be their birthday. And they were wired up to an E Stim on audio with the microphone mode on. And I got the whole club to sing Happy Birthday to them.

And give them free chairs. And to this day, I think they haven't yet forgiven me. But it was great fun for me. Listening to the video. Because it had to be sung at such a nice, loud tone. More than once. And it was great fun. So yes, I think Liz likes the audio side of things. So, again, again, also with the music, music, audio side of things, it isn't just for men.

No, that's

Liz: just, that's, that's, you just need, well, I was about to say you just need ears, but You don't. No. Because you can feel it. But. No, I like, I, I hadn't even thought about that for a second because of course I'm thinking obviously it's reacting to my voice and if you put music to it, it would pick up that and in rhythm to that.

But yeah, I just,

yeah.

Caz: Hadn't even thought about it from that side of things too. We'll be back after a brief interlude. Beep.

Wayne: A few moments later. So,

Caz: lads, you've tried. the Helix, you've tried the Pebble, you've tried the Mosey, you've tried the Audio. What if I said, what if I was to say you can actually take it up even further?

In

Caz: that all the other electrodes you've been holding so far, you've only had two points of contact. What if I said you can have an electrode that's got three points of contact? Well we do do well. Continue. We have caught what we call the triple. Okay. And this is a three point of contact electrode, so you've got one, two, three.

So you can have it as one, two, one, two, one, two, three, one, two. Because you've got three connected in the bottom. So let's try the triple! Let's try the triple. I'll switch you back on. I'm going to put you in. You quite liked milk, didn't you?

Liz: It was interesting,

Caz: yes. It's a good look. You should start to feel something.

Yep. You can have part, well, some parts more intense than others.

Liz: That's completely the opposite to the other one now because it's, it's the end that is really strong on this now.

Caz: There's a totally different sensation. Yeah. And then for something a bit more interesting, I'm going to split. You should have two bits that are continuous.

And the fur bit should be pulsing

Liz: slightly? Slightly's not the word for it, but yeah. That was, that was an

Caz: emphatic pulse. So it is a slightly different sensation?

Liz: It is.

Caz: So

Liz: which is the consistent one at?

Caz: On the output, so that's your consistence. pulsing.

Liz: And then a little

Caz: bit. Do that one up a bit. And you can adjust it to make it pulse faster with the adjust.

Whole mixing desk here.

Liz: Oh, that's fun. But I could see, talk about completely customizable. You could play around with that for a long,

Caz: long time. And you're not limited to just having insertables. You can have insertable, insertable and a pad.

Liz: I like that. That is, um. The words have left me.

Caz: She's been

left speechless.

Liz: Yeah, that doesn't happen.

I've actually left you speechless. Also, you know, trying to Visualize it.

Liz: I'm trying to keep the language above the watershed level because We can put some beeps in. Well, you need a lot of them with me normally, so I'm trying to be nice. But that I mean, we were saying before about how medley version on things can be really annoying.

This is, this is the opposite. So you've got that consistent background teasing and then those extra spikes to add a different layer to it. That is, I can see that being a lot of fun, a lot of fun. That is really neat.

Caz: Well, it's interesting. So again, you can do the tri phase of audio.

Let's see, she's got the giggle. Let's go back into that mode, shall we?

Uh oh.

Caz: There we go, and we're going back into audio. And now you've got three dimensions. We have the three dimensions and zappy

Liz: giggles. Oh lord, as I said, my, my cackle is perfect for that. Oh, goodness. Oh, yeah. I'll see. Again. Now I'm picturing this with my, my personal heavy metal preference with the double kick pedal music in the background.

With very, very heavy drumming.

Caz: Very, very heavy, heavy humming. Well, yes, yes.

Liz: And some high pitched screaming afterwards. Yeah, I think so. That is so cool. That, that does not even begin to cover it, but that is really cool.

It's

Liz: different.

No, it really is. It's,

I just cannot get over how,

Liz: how,

I mean, I knew, I feel like, and without sounding insulting, because that's not the point. I mean, I knew it was, I knew they were good products. That, that bit's obvious, but I didn't, Clearly what I was kind of picturing was nowhere in the ballpark of where your kit is. This stuff is amazing.

Caz: So would you say E-Stim is for men only?

Liz: Nah.

Caz: You can see potential for the females as well?

Liz: I do, and um, I'm very keen to, uh,

Product test, shall we say? Um, I mean, I can see, I don't want to alienate anybody by saying it, but I think there can possibly be a level of, maybe some women are a little put off by too much technology? I don't, I don't know. I mean, maybe, I mean, put off might be the wrong word, but might think that maybe the assumption on shape or, you know.

the whole, you know, cables and other bits, all that. That's a guy thing, isn't it? And it's really, really nice. The only things you need to be able to play with these are body parts and nerves.

Caz: Yep.

Liz: That, that would be the, um,

Caz: You can play with them with your partners as well. Although the  suggestion I would have if you are going to play with your partner is play with it yourself first.

Find out what you like and then relay that information to your partner. Because it has been known, a couple have purchased an item and the first time they've gone to use it, We've then been contacted to say, that's it, I need to send it back because they've basically wired their partner up, Whacked it up to a hundred, pressed the button and the poor partner is clinging on to the ceiling.

In a not very nice way. You want to be on the ceiling in a nice way, not a very nice way.

Liz: You kind of want

Caz: to work up to the ceiling, not up. Exactly. And you said about it being techy. We do have the 2B, which is our top end unit, which has got multiple channels. It's got LCD display. It is very techy, but from a female perspective, the Pebble and the Helix, in my honest opinion, are easier and better to use.

Liz: And it also depends on your level of play as well. I mean, if you're looking for something to play with yourself with or play for you and your partner to play with. Then yeah, you might, you might not necessarily want a whole LCD screen and to be conducting an entire symphony. Exactly. Or that might entirely be your kind of thing.

I mean, it's not, you're not excluding whichever way you go with it, but it's like you said, there's different, different levels right up to full on dom and symphony orchestra level of readouts. Oh, you

Caz: want Spike? Liz is fascinated by Spikies.

I mean, I like spikies anyway. But zappy spikies? I am very intrigued by zappy spikies.

I've never tried zappy spikies, I've only tried spiky spikies. Well,

Caz: zappy spikies can again be connected to your control box. In a continuous mode, because you need constant flow. Little bit of gel, water based lube on the skin. Just running it over the skin. I'm very intrigued. And then you get spiky spiky zappy zappy.

Zappy zappy spiky spiky. Yeah,

Liz: very intrigued by zappy spiky. Because I like spiky. Well, I very much like spiky.

Caz: Yes. Okay, so. Take the spikies away. I hope I haven't bored you to tears talking about all these. Lord, no. Good. Have I given you some insight?

Liz: Yes, ma'am, very much so. It's, it's, I'm not like, well, my horizons are pretty damn broad to begin with, but that's been very eye opening.

Um, I am very intrigued now. You're very intrigued.

Caz: So, is it something you'd like to try? Yes. Well, good job you said that, because, we have some goodies for you, so thank you for coming on board. First up, we have our XPE kit. So the pebble, you know, the little second control box you're playing with? The one with the two.

With the two. Yeah, that's in there. You have a bipolar egg, which is a slightly bigger version to the one I've shown you. You've got some four of these sticky puppets. Which you can use, as I've explained, externally. Okay. So that's your first little goodie. My first little goodie? Well, there are some more.

Okay. You quite like the phalange electrode. Yeah. So we have one of those for you. Lifetime guarantee, too. And we've also got these, I will show you what it looks like. You're also having one of these. Okay. Which is the Flange's big brother. Called the Mona. So called because I named it. I

Liz: think you can understand why it's called the Mona.

That is some strong advertising there. Oh it certainly is. That is. And we've also

Caz: got a one for you to play with. And it's the new bipolar one. Do you know the one I mentioned you can use over the clitoris? Yes. So I have that for you as well. So that is for you as well. Thanks a lot.

Thank you so

Caz: much. And of course, last but least, E-Stim brandy jam.

And because you've been such a good sport, and I know you like drinking tea,

contents might cause instant pleasure. You can have an E-Stim mug as well. Oh, that is fantastic. so much. You're more than welcome. Now, would you like to come back in a couple of weeks and tell us what you thought?

Liz: Absolutely. Fabulous. So guys,

Caz: you will be seeing Liz again. As you can tell from the video, she's really enjoyed what she's felt in her hand.

So it'll be interesting to see when she's had some time alone, what she thinks of it. And we can do more about Eastern for Women. If you liked the video, give us a thumbs up. If you like the channel, subscribe down there. Thank you so much, Liz, for coming on today. Thank you. It's such fun chatting with you and talking about E-Stim and everything kink.

It's been really good fun and I look forward to talking to you some more in a couple of weeks time when you come back. I will see you soon. All right. Thanks for watching, guys.

Bye.


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